Boriss Shipunov: “Estonian Futsal needs the real development plan”

Here’s the third part of the Boriss Shipunov’s interview in the Balabol podcast. The president of Baltic Futsal League stressed the main problems of the Estonian Futsal. You can read the previous part’s here and here

What does the Football Union not like about your project? Why can’t you make a deal?

We are on the different shores, unfortunately. The most important point I’d like to make is that no sport person can pronounce a term like development without experts in this very sport. It’s nonsense that Estonia has never had a futsal coach in 15 years.
But there you are.
So I’m self-taught. There are no basic things.
Okay, football has coaches’ certification, they have different categories. There’s no such thing in a futsal?
No.
So if the club wants to hire a coach, then the person starts studying by himself, or do you have to bring it from abroad?
Now we can go deep into the organizational wilderness, maybe it’s time to set the record straight. We have no coaches, no skilled coaches, who have a certificate, who can prepare competitive players not only for the Estonian futsal, but also for the international level. I’d like to give you an example: we’d like to learn Chinese…
Well, I don’t think so, of course. Unless it’s an example.
Yeah, an abstract example. We take a Chinese self-education guide and we talk to each other. We will learn something, we will speak like it was written in the book. When we get to China, they’re going to ask us what are you talking about. It’s Chinese? And we’re going to find out what is Chinese. Futsal thing is the same. We’re doing something. When former coach of Augur Mark Large received the UEFA’s license B by himself, he studied in Finland, he became the first and only Estonian coach qualified as a futsal specialist.

What about our national team’s coach?
Pure self-development, engaging in some kind of dialogues, I suspect.
So he’s not certified?
Our football union doesn’t have that line of thought. Let’s open a program of the development of Estonian football, there’s not even a word about futsal. In 2016, it was updated with three sentences: to create a system of coaching courses, to further develop the structure of the Estonian Championship and to create preconditions for the construction of a sports complex. These three lines were added. 2020 is over, and it’s still nothing: nor the first one, nor the second two, nor the third one. Now, they’re saying that something is still being written. I try to understand what is written. I ask questions, but I’m told that I didn’t understand anything.
You’re a futsal commissioner of the Football Union, and you don’t understand what Football Union does for a futsal?
I understand what a Football Union does. Everything it does isn’t good for a futsal. I’m talking about it openly. It’s not development. In the first season in 2006 we had 24 teams, the birthday of the Estonian futsal, probably on 11 November 2006.
So the Estonian futsal is 15 years old?
We just ended the 15th season. With such a solemnity: silence in the hall and two firecrackers were blew up.
It had been so quiet because of the COVID-19.
There was no audience because of the pandemic, I get it. But is it possible to pay attention to the champions who won the 15th anniversary season? You can light it up, you can find time and space in the media recources.

I think it’s a small things.
I agree. it’s more for fun.
I’m more interested in the question, you’re a member of the futsal commission of the Estonian Football union. And you say that the Union does nothing for the futsal. I can’t reconcile it, you have to be part of the process, you have to have some part in it.
Of course. I’m starting to speak up, but what I’m hearing in response is not morally or ethically correct. And legally, it has no basis at all.
Give me an example.
They can easily say to me: “Boriss, what are you talking about? Are you sober?” I just asked where we should train. Is it normal? This is the dialogue we have.
All right, we need coaches. What else does a futsal need to start getting things done now?
We had to do it earlier.
Coaches. The second one?
The second one: futsal should be an integral part of the football development strategy in Estonia.
Not just a by-product somewhere around here.
You know, to get the kids into the futsal, I have to tell their parents, come on, it’s a great sport to get into football. They’ll say: okay, what are we going to do? Where are they going to unleash their futsal energy? Where are they going to show what they’ve learned, at least to their parents? Nowhere. There’s no youth championship.